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how to repair tongue and groove ceiling

by Prof. Sadie Hane III Published 2 years ago Updated 2 years ago
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Caulking and Painting of Tongue and Groove Ceilings

  • Secure Loose Panels. Caulking and painting a ceiling with loose sections usually leads to gaps as the caulk and paint dry, so locate any problem areas before you paint.
  • Clean the Surface. Paint and caulk perform better on a clean surface, and ceilings can collect a great deal of grime over a period of years.
  • Caulk Joints and Seams. ...
  • Paint the Ceiling. ...

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How do you install tongue and groove ceiling without damaging wood?

Here’s a way to install a tongue-and-groove ceiling without damaging the wood. Set a board in place. Then with a scrap piece of tongue-and-groove stock as a block, give the board a firm tap. This forces the tongue tightly into the groove.

Do tongue and groove ceilings cause water problems?

Tongue and groove ceilings – they’re beautiful, but like many beautiful things, they can be problematic. Unfortunately, T&G ceilings have become the single most discussed items on Ted’s Energy Tips due to their overwhelming tendency to be associated with water, mold, or moisture problems. Does your ceiling drip water?

Can you put tongue and groove over drywall?

Installing tongue-and-groove (aka T&G) boards is a fast, inexpensive way to panel any ceiling or wall. You can install T&G over bare framing, drywall or plaster, so it's a great cover-up for an ugly ceiling. Most of the tongue and groove you'll find at home centers and lumberyards is 1x6 or 1x8 spruce.

Do you stain a tongue-and-groove ceiling?

That is why it is critical that you stain the wood of a tongue-and-groove ceiling before it is installed. Otherwise, the unstained portions of the tongue will eventually become exposed, creating lines of bare wood that will detract from its appearance.

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How can I fix my tongue and groove?

5:3021:21How To Replace Damaged Tongue And Groove Siding - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipAnd put some finished nails in there to make it work. So again this part will need to be cut. And inMoreAnd put some finished nails in there to make it work. So again this part will need to be cut. And in some cases you might need to cut it a little wider.

How do you remove tongue and groove from ceiling?

2:119:06How to remove a wooden ceiling this ceiling is tongue and ... - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipAlong the edges. So that the jointer could have found the joists. And first fixins so you shouldMoreAlong the edges. So that the jointer could have found the joists. And first fixins so you should have debris and dust and stuff fall down nice opponent.

How do you repair a wood ceiling?

2:073:09How to Fix Sagging Wooden Planks in the Ceiling | Remodeling - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipPut metal plate on the edge of the post to avoid too much pressure from bottle jack tip on the wood.MorePut metal plate on the edge of the post to avoid too much pressure from bottle jack tip on the wood. You put your bottle jack with the post under the panels that sagging.

How do you take apart tongue and groove?

0:322:52Removing Tongue and Groove - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipSo what we need to do is not to tear the board's up and so we just drive these things on through weMoreSo what we need to do is not to tear the board's up and so we just drive these things on through we just taken a nail punch here that I've gotten a pair of vise grips.

How do you remove nailed tongue and groove?

1:093:51Removing Nailed Down Tongue & Groove Floorboards - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipSo either you get yourself a nail puller and pull up the nails to slide the floorboards. Out or youMoreSo either you get yourself a nail puller and pull up the nails to slide the floorboards. Out or you cut the tongues. And pull the floorboards. Up so i did the latter.

Can I use wood filler on ceiling?

If the cracks are on a ceiling and they are 0.5mm wide or over the crack should be opened up and a quality filler applied, this is because of the movement in the floor joists above. Wood filler drys too hard to be suitable on a plaster wall. If the substrate is softer than the filler don't use it.

Can you glue tongue and groove ceiling?

3:3012:20How to Install Tongue and Groove Ceiling Cladding - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipAnd on the rest of the boards i used a bit less construction adhesive.MoreAnd on the rest of the boards i used a bit less construction adhesive.

How do you fill gaps in wood ceiling?

Cut the tip of a tube of latex caulk at an angle, and apply the caulk along the seams. Latex caulk is flexible when dry, and it accepts paint better than silicone caulk. After applying the caulk, smooth and work it down into the seams with a wet finger, or use a damp sponge or rag.

How do I remove tongue and groove shiplap?

5:477:15How To Remove Tongue and Groove Boards or Shiplap from a WallYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipSo but when you get to that very top course you could just take the the claw the hammer. And justMoreSo but when you get to that very top course you could just take the the claw the hammer. And just bust those boards up and then you're just gonna have to pry them out there.

How do you remove shiplap without damaging it?

1:547:01How to Remove Shiplap - YouTubeYouTubeStart of suggested clipEnd of suggested clipUp just kind of wiggle it a little bit you don't have to gank hard all you're trying to do is justMoreUp just kind of wiggle it a little bit you don't have to gank hard all you're trying to do is just create a little bit of a little bit of movement.

What is the difference between shiplap and tongue and groove?

Shiplap is a type of paneling made from different types of materials with an L-shaped lip on both sides where the panels overlap. On the other hand, tongue & groove refer to a type of paneling that can be made with different types of materials to form an indentation and a protrusion where the groove panels interlock.

Which is best tongue and groove or shiplap?

As a general rule, shiplap is the better choice for a very rainy climate, as its overlapping planks shed water quite well. Tongue and groove, on the other hand, can deteriorate in wet climates due to trapped water inside the interlocking connections.

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What is tongue and groove board?

Installing tongue-and-groove (aka T&G) boards is a fast, inexpensive way to panel any ceiling or wall. You can install T&G over bare framing, drywall or plaster, so it's a great cover-up for an ugly ceiling.

Can you mark electrical cutouts on tongue and groove?

It's really tricky to accurately mark cutouts for electrical boxes and other ceiling openings on tongue and groove. The secret is to scribe and/or mark as much as possible in place on the shiplap ceiling rather than to try to measure everything perfectly.

Can you put tongue and groove together?

(2) You have to seat the tongues and grooves together, and they don't always want to marry. (3) Tongue and groove isn't always flat, so you have to force the boards together to get them seated.

Can you fit grooves in tongue and seat?

Break off the groove flanges. On any installation, you'll have times when you can't fit the groove in the previous tongue and seat the board. In fact, it's almost always the case with the very last board. But it can also happen at shiplap ceiling protrusions or even at projecting inside corners.

Can you run battens parallel to the ceiling?

Also, the battens will somewhat flatten out uneven ceilings. Another plus: You can run the battens either parallel or perpendicular to the ceiling framing, depending on which way you want the tongue and groove to run. Wall and Ceiling Repair Simplified: 11 Clever Tricks.

Can tongue and groove be painted?

Tongue-and-groove boards are notorious for shrinking and expanding with changes in temperature and humidity. Unfinished tongue and groove boards installed in humid summer conditions can be an ugly mess during the dryness of winter. As the wood dries and shrinks, unfinished stripes will appear where the tongues withdraw from the grooves. But if you apply finish before installation, the tongues will be completely finished—no unfinished stripes to appear later! You could also opt for paint to finish your boards for a white shiplap ceiling look.

Why does tongue and groove seep through seams?

Because tongue and groove (T&G) is not air tight, warm and moist interior air can seep constantly through the seams. Unless there is a good air barrier, under certain conditions, this moist air will condense when it meets the roof deck, which leads to mildew or drops of water seeping through the small cracks between the boards.

What is the solution to insulate behind the T&G?

To insulate behind the removed T&G, we used 2-part spray foam. Spray foam provides both an air and thermal barrier; and has a high R-value per inch of material for great insulation. Our goal was to build an assembly that prohibited warm air from touching a cold surface.

What is a T&G ceiling?

All too often, a T&G ceiling is constructed in a way that virtually guarantees water problems. The roof is installed over the rafters. Fiberglass is shoved between the rafters. T&G boards are nailed to the rafters. Bingo – you get mold, water “leaks”, and thousands of dollars of repairs which probably don’t even fix the problem.

How does condensation form in a T&G ceiling?

Even when it’s not below freezing, in most climates, it gets cold enough and there’s enough water vapor carried by the air for condensation to form inside the ceiling. The wood can absorb some of that moisture and slowly transfer it out. But with a T&G ceiling, the water supply inside the house is nearly infinite, so it keeps building up. Pretty soon, the wood is saturated and larger water droplets form. They’ll drip down, following gravity, until they find a place to leak out. That’s why the drips often form far away from where the condensation is actually occurring, which is often high up the ceiling.

Why does my ceiling have water in it?

There’s no ‘leak’ but yet the lid is covered with water due to condensation forming on it. This is exactly what’s happening inside your ceiling. Under the right conditions, when water vapor in the air comes in contact with a surface cooler than the air, the water vapor becomes liquid water. If this happens enough, the water builds up ...

How long does ice last on a roof?

This could go on for days, weeks or even months until the ice melts and it starts raining in your living room!

Can you put foil faced foam on rafters?

Good question! I might add a thin sheet of foil faced polyiso sheet foam across the rafters before installing the T&G ceiling to add another layer of moisture barrier and to reduce thermal bridging through the wooden rafters. In extremely cold climates, this would be highly recommended as you could still get condensation on the exposed rafters because they transmit the cold much more than the insulation. But in eastern PA where I live, it’s not cold enough to warrant that extra work for the minimal gain given this construction.

Does T&G require a vapor barrier?

Adding the T&G ceiling. No vapor barrier required with closed cell polyurethane.

Is a tongue and groove ceiling a problem?

Tongue and groove ceilings – they’re beautiful, but like many beautiful things, they can be problematic.

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